Bridging the gap
Bridging the gap between the spatial verification community and the consistent/proper scores community by a coordinated research project for the development of spatial verification for ensembles.
Motivations
When applying traditional pointwise verification methods to spatial weather fields, forecasts that are nearly correct but slightly displaced in space can be unfairly penalized, counting both a missed event and a false alarm for the same feature. This phenomenon is known as the double penalty effect. To address this, as well as to gain more in-depth understanding in the nature of the forecast error, specialized spatial verification methods have been developed. These methods are designed to account for spatial structure, displacement, and scale, providing a more meaningful assessment of forecast performance for spatial fields.
Similarly, traditional verification scores often can be synthetically improved by slightly modifying the forecast, disregarding the forecaster’s initial belief. This phenomenon is known as hedging. Examples include categorical scores which can be improved by over-forecasting. Consequently, motivated by theoretical decision-making, consistent/proper scores have been developed as improved verification methods resilient to hedging. Despite of the common interest behind these two approaches, the explicit links between these apparently diverging approaches have not been fully explored. The spatial verification tools community has primarily focused on developing interpretable methods resilient to the double penalty effect, often at the expense of theoretical guarantees. In contrast, the consistent/proper scores community has emphasized ensuring theoretical properties, sometimes overlooking interpretability.
This research project will address the following questions. What are the links between the two approaches and how can we combine them to improve spatial verification? How to properly extend spatial verification methods to ensemble forecasts? Does the double penalty effect apply to ensemble forecasts? Does the verification of AI-based forecasts require new methods? What are desirable properties of spatial verification methods for ensemble forecasts and how to check them?
Goals
- 1Encourage and coordinate exchanges between the two communities
- 2Understand and explicit the gaps and links between the two approaches
- 3Develop new proper methods for spatial verification of ensemble forecasts
- 4Facilitate meta-verification
- 5Focus on some specific tailored applications
Participants
The research project gathers 57 participants.
Meteorological centers: SMN , BoM , GeoSphere , ECCC , ECMWF
, Météo-France , DWD , NCMRWF , KNMI , MetNorway , MeteoSwiss , NOAA .
Academic institutions: Laval University ; CNRS, Marie and Louis Pasteur University ; University of Bonn, University of Duisburg-Essen, HITS, KIT, Marburg University ; University of Ljubljana ; Chalmers University of Technology ; University of Geneva, ETH Zurich ; University of Bath, University of Exeter, University of Oxford, University of Reading ; Cornell University .
Get Involved
The project is open to anyone interested in spatial verification. If you'd like to follow the project or take part, please fill out the form to join our mailing list.
Join the Mailing List For any other inquiry, please directly contact Romain Pic via romain.pic@unige.ch.
Events
| May 3–8, 2026 | Session NP5.2 on Verification of AI models at EGU 26 in Vienna, Austria, and online. |
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| Oct 22–23, 2025 | Workshop on Verification of AI-models in Operational Centers (VerAIops) in Montreal, Canada, and online. |
| Sep 19, 2025 | Third meeting: an overview of consistent/proper scores by Sam Allen. |
| Jun 23–24, 2025 | Discussion on spatial verification and AI at the Ver-AI workshop in Reading, UK. |
| Jun 10, 2025 | Second meeting: an overview of spatial verification tools given by Barbara Casati. |
Useful Resources
- JWGFVR webpage – Joint Working Group on Forecast Verification Research (JWGFVR).
- ICP and MesoVICT website
- ICP article – First phase of the Intercomparison project.
- MesoVICT setup article – Second phase of the Intercomparison Project.
- Spatial forecast verification reference list – A list of references on spatial verification providing a good background on ICP and MesoVICT.